It's been a week, huh? Apple introduced not only the iPhone 14 but also Apple Watch Ultra. This durable watch from the American company has an interesting design, features, price and is really tempting, but would it be a Garmin killer? In addition, they are still greatly hampered by the limited stamina.
Of course, after a big event, information about newly introduced products is everywhere. It is no different with Apple or Samsung or Google. But it is interesting to discuss the published opinions. The Verge o Apple Watch Ultra claimed that this watch could make Garmin the second Nokia, which is not a flattering comparison, Digital Trends then compared Apple's rugged watch to Samsung's and his Galaxy Watch5 For when he said that Apple gave the company a template for a "smart watch with real adventure".
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Apart from Apple superfans who want the most expensive device in every category, this "watch for adventurers" for 25 CZK doesn't really have to play to its target group at all. Despite Apple's real efforts, they still have the same basic problems as the watch Galaxy Watch5 For. It is the best watch for phones Galaxy Well, Samsung, it's also the best watch you can pair with the device Android, but compared to the previous generation, there are still not many new features that would really suit professionals (unless we count great durability). Samsung Health, which targets casual athletes rather than professionals, is also to blame.
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The biggest advantage of a Garmin or Fitbit watch with a Premium subscription is that it gives you personalized workouts or recommended daily activities based on your current VO2 Max and previous training data. If you run a marathon, you get instant feedback telling you to save for the week. But with Apple Watch Ultra or Galaxy Watch5 For the very next day you find yourself getting up your lazy ass and closing all the rings. They do not have the same context informace, which would alert you to overtraining, as Garmin does based on the Body Battery score.
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It's possible, that Apple implements some custom algorithms to be able to do these informace to provide to its users. However, I wonder if this data will end up locked behind a paid service Apple Fitness+, just like Fitbit Premium. Moreover, this Apple service is not available for us either.
36 hours, 3 days, months
Plus, as Garmin cheekily pointed out in its tweet after Apple's event, the lifespan of its top watch models is measured in months, not hours. 36 hours of use Apple Watch it's progress, but it's poor compared to the competition, which also applies to 60 hours in low power mode or 12 hours with continuous GPS tracking. Buy a Garmin Fenix 7 and it will last you 18 days or 57 hours with GPS.
We measure battery life in months. Not hours. #Enduro2 pic.twitter.com/OcTLdpvHV6
— Garmin (@Garmin) September 8, 2022
If you expect that Apple Watch The Ultra actually lasts 12 hours, keep in mind that estimates from the lab with a pre-production sample may not match your actual usage. Additionally, since dual-frequency GPS cuts the Garmin Forerunner 255's battery life from 30 hours to 16, it's likely that using it on the Ultra model will provide just 7 hours of battery life - the same as the base Apple Watch Series 8.
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Apple Watch Ultras are great for iPhone users as they are Galaxy Watch5 Pro great for users Androidu. In both cases, however, they still target ordinary athletes, not top athletes, rather than the real professionals. It is to them that the competition provided by Garmin and spol. will provide more relevant information. Plus, for true athletes doing multi-day hikes, the chance of their watch dying in the middle of nowhere is just too much of a risk.
I don't understand Garmin and their ramblings about endurance in months. I had their watch and the endurance was in units of days!
Yes, it will last longer than the new Ultra, without a doubt. The problem is that Garmin indicates the endurance on the GPS with the fact that it is measured from the watch, but they no longer know that if I take Apple Watch for example on a bike and I have my phone in my backpack or in my jersey, because no one goes out for long events without a phone these days, so me Watch they take GPS from a mobile phone and their stamina is then completely different. And for something like going for a run for 2-4 hours, a separate one is enough for me Watch I don't even need Ultra for that anymore.
So yes, Garmin lasts longer, but not months but days!
Next, however, I will ask another question. Do I get a call from Garmin? I won't call. Shall I write an SMS from garmin? I won't write. Can I read emails on garmin? I won't read. Can I install the apps I want on Garmin? I will not install.
What can you give me better than Garmin? Watch? Basically, just hang in there, but not like they advertise. For an extremely demanding day Watch it is fully sufficient and lasts, there is no problem with that. For events for a week, fine, so I'll charge them from a power bank - after all, I'd have to do that with Garmins too, just not as often! I'll be charging my phone anyway, so it's no longer a problem.
Going somewhere outside of civilization for a long time and not having to deal with recharging? I'll take automatics and a compass with a map - no, I won't take a Garmin either Watch – experience from the monthly event outside of civilization.
Endurance? The same
Usability? AT Watch significantly larger than anything from garmin.
Measurement accuracy - the same - I compared, for example, a combo Watch a iPhone with a Garmin cycle computer plus chest - the results differed minimally - and if I take measurements from a Garmin watch, they have Watch rather on top, but they are closer to the lump that will be the most accurate.
Sorry Garmin - I left you a year ago and I'm not sorry.
Well written - agree👍
Complete agreement. I have an AW7 41 mm, just like my first AW Series 0, I charge it by putting it on the charger at 9 in the evening, I commit hygiene, I take the watch (after less than an hour today) and continue with it, including sleep measurement (it's true, it's the first generation she couldn't). It doesn't limit me somehow, I just have an established routine. On the contrary, I had a problem with the Garmin Venu, that they lasted less than three days, so charging them every other day meant charging them to about 40%, and on the third day they didn't last all the way. How is it better than charging daily? The only thing I would take from Garmins is the Body Battery, I miss this feature on the AW. But otherwise, with Garmins, I missed such obvious things as Siri, installing any application, convenient payment, unlocking the watch with the phone, dictating a reply to a message, linking with navigation, controlling music from the watch on Mac and HomePod, and probably a lot of other things that you need now I don't remember.
Buy the training app today. It is similar to the body battery on Garmins.
I changed my last AW to a Garmin tactix solar pro and I would never go back. With limited GPS, it lasts about 21 days. I got around 1,5 months with full savings (they probably would have lasted longer but I needed to recharge and let them go back to full). The fact that I don't call from them doesn't cause me a problem because, as you already pointed out, everyone takes their phone on longer hikes. The difference is that when I got into trouble in Montenegro, of course, completely outside of any signal, I was able to send a sos message via satellite via garmin. So it's more about what you use it for. And for me, the resistance of AW vs Tactix can't even be compared.
And payments on Garmin watches? God this is pathetic…. Perhaps they should cancel it rather than offering such crappy functionality.
Hi Peter, and again…. well... how could it not work for you on payments... max. that it didn't support your two noname bank... I can't think of anything else... hello :-)
Garmin makes rechargeable watches that last a few days, but they also make watches whose batteries need to be replaced about once a year. This can easily be said to last for months
Hi Petra, you wrote it well... "So yes Garmin lasts longer, but months but days! " you're a sheep to me... well 🙂 and you don't understand it at all... I wonder what Garmin model you had... 😉 I think you can't even reach the ultras from Apple based on what you write here... you entertained me well but... hello 🙂
stupid answer…
Stupid reminder….
Interesting comments 🙂 I have been alternating A for the last few yearsWatch -> Garmin and back again. After the AW7, I now have an Epixy 2 for a few days. I traveled a lot during the summer, and even though the smart functions are completely different in the AW, constantly looking for a positive charger was easy and sometimes hard to kill. In addition, I don't always have the time and space to wait for the watch to charge. But ok, with Ultra this will be better. What I appreciate most about Garmin is that I get a comprehensive software package in the HW price without additional fees. WITH Applem this is much more dangerous. I'm still looking forward to AW Ultra 😉
I wonder how many Garmin users actually use and analyze all indicators from Garmin after sports and let the watch train them 🙂 I had a Fenix 6, it counted my steps even while brushing my teeth, an altimeter plus minus the bus, I supposedly ran on rooftops, so mainly that it has some Body Batteries. If I don't feel well, I don't go running 🙂
It's a shame that journalism as such doesn't really exist anymore.
The authors of these articles are just poor writers.
First of all, journalists, reviewers should ask about the fact that comparing these 2 things is complete nonsense.
They are 2 different things, each has its own target group of people and, above all, each has its own purpose for which it was made.
AWs are a timekeeping computer.
Garmin is a sports tracker with some computer functions.
And that's it, everything comes from that. From hardware, software to battery life.
It is clear that an almost full-fledged computer will "eat" a lot more electricity than a single-purpose box with a watch and a few extra functions.
It's beautiful to see from the comments, where there are posts by people who use both things precisely for the reason that the single-purpose thing is better in the one thing it was made for.
So it is complete nonsense to keep comparing it and saying that AW are worse/better than Garmin.
In the same way, Garmin just threw it away when it is pulled out, that it has a longer endurance. It just shows how stupid he is.